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:Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article.  Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute.  I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions.  We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text.  Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large.  If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves.  I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event.  However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful.  I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed.  At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made.  Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement.  [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.]  [[User:BlueOtter|BlueOtter]] 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article.  Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute.  I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions.  We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text.  Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large.  If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves.  I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event.  However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful.  I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed.  At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made.  Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement.  [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.]  [[User:BlueOtter|BlueOtter]] 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
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This is Cloudchaser Sakonige.  I just edited "Cloudchaser Shaconage" and "Furry Dictionaries" to correct the spelling of my last name and on "Cloudchaser Shaconage" I updated the External Links.  That of course has broken the link to "Cloudchaser Shaconage" from "Furry Dictionaries."  How do I edit the main title of "Cloudchaser Shaconage" so "Shaconage" get changed to "Sakonige"?

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Hi there! Welcome to GreenReaper's talk page. You can send a message to me by editing this page, and I will leave a reply for you later on your own page.

To start a new conversation, click here, otherwise edit the appropriate section below. Old conversations are archived at the right - feel free to browse!

You can also email me (if logged in with an email address set in preferences) or chat on #wikifur if you prefer.

Bots

Is there anyway to have a bot put ContributorU on user pages, at least the ones with a matching article name? Or, perhaps, one that puts welcome templates on the talk pages of new users? 40x40pxEquivamp 19:53, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Both of those are technically feasible, but the first would require writing a bot script and assumes they are the same person, while I'm not sure the second is a good idea in general. Welcomes are at best rather impersonal if you have a bot do them, and at worst end up looking stupid when you start welcoming vandals (faking the last admin to edit signing it only makes it worse, as seen at Wikia). --GreenReaper(talk) 20:01, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
All right. Just a thought I had and thought I'd ask about. 40x40pxEquivamp 20:13, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Questions

What do you define the difference between a fursuit and an animal costume? The subject has come up at Wikiepdia's fursuit article, but I'm a rather poor debater, and feel my opinion is pretty closed-minded. My opinion is that a fursuit is only a fursuit if associated with furry, otherwise, it's an animal or mascot costume. However, I know that some feel an animal costume is a fursuit, and the two are synonymous. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. 40x40pxEquivamp 12:43, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

As it happens I was already reading that discussion. I think my response would be much the same as yours - certainly, animal costumes existed, but they were not used for the same reasons, nor (apparently) called the same thing. I might respond there, but I'm a little busy at work now. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Also, whenever I try to edit a section or add a new section, the wiki tries to replace the entire text with the section. Any thoughts on why this is? It may have something to do with the fact that I am using Internet Explorer, which gives me problems in general on this Wiki. 40x40pxEquivamp 12:45, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

What version of IE is it? Does it happen if you do turn off the advanced editing functions in preferences so that you no longer have the WikiEditor toolbar showing? --GreenReaper(talk) 12:49, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

+ ::It's the newest version. The only difference between the newest version and the older one (which I used on my PC) is that this allows me to edit, as long as I do not scroll down the page, whereas the older would simply lock up my computer if I even went to an edit page. The only way I am able to edit on this laptop I often use is by typing without scrolling too much, and then clicking the "Changes" tab, where it allows me to scroll down to click save. I have just turned off the advanced editing functions, and it still did it. 40x40pxEquivamp 13:03, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Disregard the email I just sent

You took care of it. 40x40pxEquivamp 21:44, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Actually, now might be a good time to ask. I'd like to be able to fight vandalism with greater ease. And while it wouldn't have helped much in this last situation, would it be too much of me to request rollback privelages? 40x40pxEquivamp 21:55, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Sure. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:01, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Wow, really? I was honestly expecting a "I'm sorry, but..." (Especially considering my recent ousting as an EDiot.) Thanks! 40x40pxEquivamp 22:06, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

Just keep in mind what is not vandalism. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:08, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

wikifur.ru

WikiFur:Community_Portal#wikifur.ru — There is a discussion of domain and copyright protection (trademarks). --SHREW 22:00, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

Responded. --GreenReaper(talk) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

Altering/deleting species profile

After a few years of it being there, I suddenly found a user "Spirou" putting my Monoceros page up for deletion. When I undid his edit and asked why, he deleted it in its entirety and replaced it with a 'redirect'.

Just curious why I was singled out. Or are all http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Category:Fictional_species pages due to to be similarly deleted/redirected if any single WikiFur editor decides that a 'custom species' isn't to his or her liking? If you're nuking all of them, then no worries, I understand. But if it's just this page, I'd really like to know why.

There are multiple monoceri played online, and yes, I've referred others (esp. on SpheresMU*) to that page for reference. Just because no others of them are WikiFur members with their own page yet doesn't mean that the fictional species entry for monoceri should be deleted. Some fairness or explanation would be highly appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tugrik (talkcontribs) .

Discussion continued at Talk:Monoceros. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

AFF postings

Mr Reaper, please do not mention my name at Flayrah.com when linking to AFF postings I made. I do not wish for my name to appear anywhere on that site. -- Oliver

Replied via email, after figuring out what posts was being talked about. Note: Flayrah has its own contact page. --GreenReaper(talk) 10:39, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Policy Question

Do I need permission to write an article about somebody or could I create a stub based off of information on someone simply based off of their FurAffinity information? Equivamptalk 12:17, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

Anyone can start an article on any topic, unless a personal exclusion is in effect. --GreenReaper(talk) 12:32, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with me

I don't want Meepsheep here any more than you if he acts like this. Equivamptalk 02:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Hello

There is a discussion that needs your attention at Talk:Encyclopædia Dramatica (.ch) <o> 03:58, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

I skimmed over it a few minutes ago, but it didn't seem like any consensus had been formed as to do anything that would require a curator. The editing community as a whole makes the decision here, we just facilitate them, so you'll need to try to work things out with the regular editors of that article rather than appealing to authority. --GreenReaper(talk) 04:01, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

Question

Are you going to permaban the IP (98.245.197.226) as well? This one is unique in that it isn't a proxy, but... Equivamptalk 23:46, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

Re:

I'll see if that works; thanks for the tip. Equivamptalk 15:43, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Hm...I must have a different layout for Yahoo, I'm not seeing any of the buttons I'm supposed to click. Equivamptalk 15:49, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

I found it, but It leads me to a blank page. Equivamptalk 16:00, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

However, eBuddy works. Equivamptalk 16:12, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Well, I talked to him. Nothing was really accomplished, however. He accused me of attacking him when I was merely asking why he wanted the section removed, which he didn't give a clear answer to. He said he didn't want people googling his name to find out about FA, so I suggested not indexing it, which you've apparently done. However, he then said it was pointless to have the article at all if Google can't find it, to which the only solution is personal exclusion, but he didn't want that either. Then he did want it. He seemed to have changed his mind again by the end of the discussion, and said the information was inaccurate. I advised him to correct it, then threatened to blank it immediately after. All the while making passive aggressive insults and threatening to tattle on me to you for "bringing drama" and telling me I'm lucky he didn't have me banned, despite having done nothing wronf. In fact, I was more polite than usual. Also, you apparently "told him about me" but I don't know what you said. All in all, it only managed to shave a few years off my lifespan, because I still don't know what he wants or what happened. So, I was wondering if you could explain to me what I'm supposed to do/have done, or talk to him yourself. Equivamptalk 17:40, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

We've had further conversation. This sort of thing happens every now and again in some cases. For the record, all I really told him about you was that you wouldn't respond well to vague threats - which was apparently correct. --GreenReaper(talk) 21:21, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

It's not that I thought you said anything bad, he just alluded to it enough that it seemed like something important. Equivamptalk 21:30, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

RBW boat party notice

Hi GreenReaper,

That's actually a very good point - it seems to be a UKFur issue. If you go here : http://forum.ukfur.org/forum/86-ukfur-events/, and look at the RBW forum 'last updated' thing on the right, it (currently) says 124 topics, but the forum itself is only showing 3 pinned topics.... I've PM'd the admins about it and I'm waiting on the response. In the meantime, you can search the UKFur boards, using "RBW boat party" (minus the quotes) as search criteria, and the article is (currently) the 4th one down. The actual comment from Miyabi (aka sneppid) is post #19 and reads as follows:

We've sortof dropped the ball on this – we're all quite enjoying the time off; not having massive heart palpitations and not being plunged into huge personal debt is a really nice feeling :3 We're also pretty busy managing LF stuff (well, most of us are, anyway). We'll probably make an official announcement soon but for the time being don't hold your breath for a 2011 boat party – think 2012 instead. We couldn't get the Erasmus at all for the dates we wanted this year, which wouldn't be a huge problem but we'd like to keep the vessel the same. Sorry about the radio silence, but will keep you posted re: 2012.

So, no "official" announcement generally available, no. If that changes, I'll update the article (assuming you're happy with this as a reference - I can email you a screenshot if you like. :) Bezel 05:15, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

The issue with UKFur should now be fixed - apparently there were some unexpected hiccups when the RBW posts were moved from "conventions" to "events", which have now been corrected. Bezel 11:06, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

UKR flag

Can you add the UKR (Ukraine) flag to flagdiv and Flags.png? --mwalimu 09:07, 2 August 2011 (EDT)

Furnal Equinox Edits by Non-Directors/ConCom

Hey Green, We've all been through this before. dan skunk is reversing edits on the page, after I removed the "see other/danskunk" and he placed it back. With me removing again. As a director of the convention and concom, speaking with others on said places. We do not wish his wikifur linked from our page article. He has mention in the article and that is enough, he has and still continues to cause problems for us, including many threatening e-mails sent to myself and other directors of the convention in the last few months. We would appreciate if he was blocked from editing our page, or our page was locked from edits, except from anyone of the directors. Scani, Myself, Blindsight, Pakesh or Arctic. At the least I'd like dan skunk to be prevented from editing our page. We don't need more issues then we already have with him and his problems.

Shane Nicholson Director/ConCom - Furnal Equinox

Perhaps it's poor form for me to interject on user talk pages, but I noticed this change had felt compelled to jump in because you're asking for administrative lockdowns on this article. Generally, I feel it is not appropriate policy for pages to be locked down to a whitelist of official authors who can contribute. I help run a convention, so I have a similar perspective about public perceptions and controlling impressions. We do this through our convention website, and I think that's the appropriate place for controlled messages and positive promotional text. Our event, like yours, has had a turbulent past that got us to where we are today, and while history isn't always positive or engendering of those presently organizing an event, convention, website, etc., it's an important part of the history of the event, but also, often for the regional fandom at large. If items are added which are true facts, written in a NPOV, and are referenced according to standard, even if they cast an event in a contentious or less than positive light, they're part of a total perspective an encyclopedic article deserves. I noticed the tremendous amount of edits/reverts/reedits/talk page notes that have been going on about your event, and I can't find evidence that Dan is "trolling" in any usual sense, though I certainly understand how you might wish him to not publish his edits as associated with your event. However, I think to be true to it's intended form, that's a concession we have to allow to keep Wikifur credible and in a long-term sense, truly useful. I don't believe anyone should be granted a privileged status as to what an article should say because they are elected or appointed to organize the subject matter being discussed. At the very least, I would recommend that if Dan puts up something you find untruthful, the references be questioned and researched by uninvolved parties, and consensus is reached before edits/reverts are made. Until that happens, even if you were exclusive granted access to maintain the article, it would no longer be credible, it would simply be promotional without community consensus and involvement. [I am going to cross-post this to your own Talk page just so you get this.] BlueOtter 17:03, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Just updated some info

This is Cloudchaser Sakonige. I just edited "Cloudchaser Shaconage" and "Furry Dictionaries" to correct the spelling of my last name and on "Cloudchaser Shaconage" I updated the External Links. That of course has broken the link to "Cloudchaser Shaconage" from "Furry Dictionaries." How do I edit the main title of "Cloudchaser Shaconage" so "Shaconage" get changed to "Sakonige"?