User talk:GreenReaper/Technical1

This is an archive page, covering technical/howto issues discussed on my user talk page from the foundation of WikiFur to 10 September 2005. Please do not edit this page - if you wish to bring up a topic, copy the relevant portion into a new section on the current page. Thanks! --GreenReaper^(talk)

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LylatRPG

Hi. Thanks for the welcome. ^^; This seems to be a confusing topic in my mind as far as sorting, but what would "StarFox" groups like RPG's belong to? Certainly the one I know about so far does not use a MU*, but rather IRC and has it's own Wiki even. --Markus 09:48, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure myself. Maybe you should make a new category for roleplaying groups, and then categorize that category page to [[Category:Community]]. You make new categories just by doing [[Category:Whatever]] and then clicking on the link to edit it like any other page. --GreenReaper^(talk) 14:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Redirect

How does one create a redirect? Ie, to redirect "Camp Feral" to Feral? --Tafyrn^(talk)

Just type #REDIRECT [[Feral]] on Camp Feral. --GreenReaper^(talk) 03:49, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

GreenReaper: thanks for your efforts in cleaning up newly created entries. I've learned a great deal from comparing my original entries to the improved versions! --Osfer

No problem! --GreenReaper^(talk) 05:43, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Is there already a 'beginner's guide' page available? If not I'd be happy to start work on it. Berhaps it could be linked to from the main page? --Osfer

There's the help page, which is linked to on the side and on WikiFur Central. It also links to the guide on Meta. If you think you can improve the help page, go right ahead! --GreenReaper^(talk) 05:48, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Have you considered instating a 'ranking' system to indicate users who have contributed a great deal? I'm not trolling for rewards, myself, but as a New Mediast I'm rather interested in how you'd prefer to navigate between the offering of a reward for contribution and preventing people from performing useless edits and contributions to gain a higher ranking. Ranking systems are fairly common in forums and seem to manage themselves, there. --Osfer

There are ways to measure people's contributions, if so desired. You can look at a user's contributions page, which is a link in the toolbox to the left when a user's page or talk page is selected. You can also see what other people have said on a person's user talk pages, or look at the user section of the statistics to get a rough idea of where they stand contribution-wise.

In the end, though, for the people we really want to attract, contribution is its own reward. That's not to say people can't be proud of their contributions, of course, but obsessing over it is probably unhealthy. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 06:06, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Languages

I had just one question re this wiki: Are there any guidelines for creating furry articles not in English? Say, Chakat/ia or Chakat/ru or whatnot? I'm a member of Furrys Pro Interlingua, as well as a general-purpose language geekskunk, and I'm just curious. Almafeta 13:18, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The "best" way to do it would be to use something like ru.furry.wikicities.com, edit pages on there, and then use translation tags to link to them, as in Wikipedia. We do not have versions of WikiFur in other langauges at this time. If this is something you'd like to help coordinate (it will need at least one person to maintain each language), let me know what languages you'd like it set up for and I can get things set up with the Wikicities staff.

If you're not up to doing this at this time, as a temporary measure, what you suggest might work but only if you add a category to each plage, like [[Category:Spanish articles]], and maybe put a template in the main page to indicate that there is a translation for it (you could do one template that would work for the whole page. That way we can find them to move them later on! :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 13:38, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Something I recently found out: It's possible to have multiple languages on one project. For example, the main Wikicities page does this. You'd need to contact technical support to turn it on, but it'd allow for pages about the same topic to be written in multiple languages while being all on one server (and all part of one community), and while looking like 'normal' interlanguage links. 164.106.241.168 17:24, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Special bar

Also, I've created a special bar for the front page here. Go ahead and add it if you think it's a good idea ^^; Almafeta 08:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Seems a perfectly reasonable use of space. Added! --GreenReaper^(talk) 13:54, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Furry MUCK Logo

Thanks for the welcome. :) I moved the logo at Markus's request since he was having trouble with the TOC not liking where it was. It was either a case of the logo staying where it was but being made an image, or moving it to where the <pre>'ed text wouldn't damage the layout. -Nidonocu 14:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Aha! I have a third option - move the TOC to the section below. You can use __TOC__ to specify TOC positioning (or __NOTOC__ to remove it entirely, but we need it here :-). Will see if I can figure out a good way to do that. --GreenReaper^(talk) 14:34, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Mmm.. true the TOC can be moved but if the logo is really wanted at the top and understandibly it is the convention to have it there, pahapse taking a screencap of the wording and having a nice logo image would be better? I'll provide the image if you wish though of course, I can't edit the article currently. While I'm here, would it be ok for me to mention a few things we are missing? Um.. for one.. a deletion policy! o.O I've seen a few articles that seem to have little to do with anything furry (Zline for example). We could also do with setting up our own Manual of Style for how a biography page, a species page or term page should be laid out for example. I have er.. a -little- exprience with MediaWiki you could say. ;) I spent a good few weeks teaching myself the system and actually have a wiki of my own I'm just.. lacking the community to get it going currently. x.x Despite e-mail pokes to the people who have signed up to it. EpicWiki which is a fictional writing wiki, as you can see I spent ages making it look good and now.. no support. :/ And my first wiki here which was my test and learning how to use it. It was going to be for a friend's project but that's on hiatus now. What I'm proud of though on that wiki is the extensive help system I was planning after hating the mine field that is MetaWiki's. You can see from the pages I did write that I might know.. a -little- wiki syntax. ;) [1] [2] *squeeks* Oh seems you've already fixed it so.. never mind. o.O Hope you take some of my thoughts onboard though. o.o -Nidonocu - talk 14:59, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Linking to a term in Wikipedia, but not in Wikifur

May I ask how one would make a link reference to a term that, while not defined in Wikifur, and not directly furry related, is defined in Wikipedia? --Seamora^(talk)

Certainly. You can refer to Wikipedia like this: [[Wikipedia:Article name|text to display]]. This is often preferable to creating an actual page about it. --GreenReaper^(talk) 20:42, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

New article

Pardon me if this is a really dumb question, but how does one get to the initial edit screen to create a new article if there is no existing "Article to add" link to start from?

Not a dumb question at all - it's not hugely obvious. One way is to create such a link by putting [[Something]] into an existing article - such a related article. This is usually a good idea because it encourages pages to be linked to related pages. However, if there isn't any page for which this is appropriate, you should either put this link in the Sandbox and delete it later, or type the URL in manually. If you look at the URL for this page, you should see that it includes the name of the page - you can change the URL to any name and it will go to that page, even if it doesn't exist yet. You can then click edit and start typing! --GreenReaper^(talk) 14:17, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

How do I add an article to a category?

Hi I wish to add an article to a category but the edit feature only allows me to edit the top portion of the page. I tried * name of category and that places link in wrong place. I tried [[category:whatever]] and that puts link at bottom of page and not as article. Please I looked all over the help section and found nothing usefull for this problem. --Lupinelonewolf

(answered) --GreenReaper^(talk) 21:09, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

OK I tried that but it puts link in incorrect place

I understand what you are saying but I am having difficulty trying to place that link into the section labled "articles" in this Category, rather the link is being placed above in a non related portion of the page

I am trying to place a linkie to Anthrofest which is a con in Canada next yr in August and is not listed yet under conventions. Furry Wiki has good exposure and the hope is that people take notice of the unfamiliar name to many and attend. Every time though that I try to post it it puts the link in the wrong place. I want to put the link Under A and right after Anthrocon in the A category on the conventions page.

So I went to the edit section of that page and I guess that portion of the page is protected or something because I cannot get my link to go where I want it. As for the whole "whatever issue I was following advice I found in greenreapers usertalk and somehow a "furfright" ended up in the F like it should have and thus I was trying to repeat that. I think now I realize that what happened was someone saw what I was doing and I did it incorrectly and so they obliged me and did it themself. I appologize for that but still am confused as to add to that "article" portion of the "conventions" page.

Ahh, I see. The thing you have to understand is that you do not edit the category page to put an article into the category - you edit the page that you want to put into the category. In this case, you would edit the Anthrofest article . . . but that article doesn't exist, so you should click that red link to create it. Try just putting a few words and then [[Category:Conventions]] at the end. You should see a link to Category:Conventions appear at the bottom, and when you save that page, it will appear in Category:Conventions, as you intended. --GreenReaper^(talk) 21:58, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Subpages for Project/Wikifur Namespace

Heya, I'm close to finishing my work with the templates. :) However, I wanted to make the one page I have now (Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text) become an introduction page (similar to this one on Wikipedia) and have multiple pages for different template types as Subpages. However, it seems this feature isn't set to allow them in the Project(Wikifur) namespace. Would it be possible for you to turn them on? I don't know how it works with Wikicities but on standalone wiki's, its a setting in LocalSettings.php. Many thanks. :) -Nidonocu - talk 14:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the problem is - I was able to make Wikifur:Boiler Plate Text/Test just fine (deleted it now). Am I misunderstanding what you were trying to do? If so, please tell me exactly what pages you were trying to make/edit and what error message you got. --GreenReaper^(talk) 17:26, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages, making a link of [[/All Templates]] on the page you wish to have as the parent should save to be 'parent/All Templates'. However, its actually just gone and made /All_Templates. If it was a true subpage, it should have a little breadcrumb link auto inserted, like on this page of my wiki here: http://nidonocu.technoweyr.co.uk/ewiki/index.php/User:Nidonocu/Management_Links

-Nidonocu - talk 18:40, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ahh, right, so it's this - OK, I'll ask. --GreenReaper^(talk) 18:59, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks --Nidonocu - talk 19:05, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Should be done. --GreenReaper^(talk) 19:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yeap! All good! Many thanks! :D --Nidonocu - talk 19:18, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Categoreis and subcategories

Thank you for the friendly welcome message. The help system seems fairly complete. I find it much more useful to click the "edit" section of more complete entries and just look at the code to figure things out, but I know that doesn't work for some people. I do have a question that may be in there somewhere and I missed it. How are categories and subcategories created? It seems to me that one of the sub-categories within People ought to be "publishers." Otherwise, this seems fun and to be growing nicely. -- Gene

Categories are created like any page, by making links to them or going to their pages. However, to get the links in the right place, you place the special tag [[Category:YourCategoryName]] into the article that you want to be in the new category (or [[Category:YourCategoryName|Optional String To Sort By]] if you don't want it sorted in the list by the article name). This will create a link at the bottom. If it's red, then you can create the category page by clicking it, editing and saving the resulting page - your article page will then be present on there. If the link is blue, then it already existed, and your article page will be added to it. --GreenReaper^(talk) 21:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Footnote Links

How would one create footnote links to lines in a given poem, if this is possible? --Seamora^(talk)

Do you meen footnotes within the poem? If so, you might want to try using the ref and note templates, which I have just copied to WikiFur.

How would I make an image become an html link when clicked on?

Hi, I checked out the help here and at nidonocu's help page and I do not see info on how to make an image into an HTML link. Do you know how to do this?

I want the picture to go to a web site. --Lupinelonewolf

Hi there! I'm sorry, but we've had to disable externally-linked images due to people using them to link to offsite graphics that weren't theirs. As a side-effect, it is no longer possible to do what you want to do, because you have to link images in the external link style to make a html link out of them (even if they reside on this server).

You can see how it would have been done here. --GreenReaper^(talk) 02:47, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Authors versus Writers: Category confusion?

There's been at least one instance of someone mistakenly using [[Category:Authors]] instead of [[Category:Writers]]. Could we please have some kind of redirect for the Authors category? Sslaxx

Upon testing, the answer appears to be "no". It redirects the viewer, but doesn't redirect category entries. I've put a note on the discussion page for [[Category:Authors]] asking people not to create it. Hopefully the red link will dissuade people from using it . . . hopefully. Or we can just check now and again. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 14:47, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Furry Games Category

I was wondering: Shouldn't there also be a category for Furry Games as well? Granted, most of the games as adopted by the fandom aren't by-furries-for-furries, but they still count.. and games such as Inherit The Earth do count as being from within the fandom.

(judging from the Recent Changes listing, that was from Maus Merryjest. Maus, you can sign your Talk comment by clicking the squiggle button at the top of the editing text box, the second one from the right.) As for the question at hand, there is a category for games: [[Category:Games]]. If it's listed on WikiFur, I think it goes without saying it's a furry game :-) The category was only created in the last day or so, so you might have missed it. --Duncan da Husky 12:17, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Note that [[Category:Games]] has two subcategories, [[Category:Roleplaying games]] and [[Category:Video games]]. --Mwalimu 13:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Maus - welcome to WikiFur! As Duncan and Mwalimu say, there already exist categories for games - generally, if it's included on WikiFur, you can assume it has some level of furry content or interest. If there is a game you want to add that doesn't fit into those categories, you could either add it to Games or make your own subcategory (like Category:Board games) and add it to that. --GreenReaper^(talk) 13:45, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Titles with lower cases

Let me see if I read it right. Wikifur entries ---must--- always start with an uppercase letter (I.e nothinkat->Nothinkat,) but, if an entry is known to start with an lower case letter (I.e. any of Usenets alt. groups,) I must enter the article with an upper case (I.e Alt.fan.furry,) but inser the caveat paragraph "The title of this article is incorrect due to technical limitations. The correct title is alt.fan.furry." before the opening paragraph of the article. --Spirou 63.204.227.202 20:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yes. The correct method is to use this template at the top: {{wrongtitle|title=the correct title}} and it will insert the correct text. --GreenReaper^(talk) 20:40, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

WikiFur:Help

Please don't delete this. It may not have any redirects, but it is the help link in the "you're making a new page" text. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 03:01, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok.. could you put a note on the talk page in case I forget or anyone else tries deleting it. o.O BTW, I've responded to your comments on WikiFur_talk:WikiFur_Central_Version_2#Comments with some queries, awaiting your reply. --Nidonocu - talk 03:07, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Recently popular pages

Is there a way to display the most popular pages using only the most recent data for a specified time period (such as the "show last" options on the My watchlist)? Mwalimu 23:47, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Alas, there seems not to be. --GreenReaper^(talk) 01:09, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Regarding recent link deletion in Sibe

Had a slight tussle over another attempt to remove the link to Sibe's criminal record earlier, I think everything I've replied with is correct policy. Conversation can be seen at User talk:68.46.244.231 and my talk page. --Nidonocu - talk 02:43, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Considering the trouble they've apparently had tracking Sibe down, it's quite probable that the information that the user mentioned isn't current anyway. --GreenReaper^(talk) 04:00, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

(more details available on the pages noted)