User talk:86.164.155.151
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Regarding your recent edits to Frank Gembeck, we generally include information of that sort only if there is a tangible relevance to their involvement in furry fandom, or if there is a good reason why it is in the interest of the furry community that this information be made public. If you can provide an explanation or additional details or otherwise present a case for why this information should be included in the article, please feel free to reply here or in the article's talk page. --mwalimu 17:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- This seems to be less 'what does this user do' and more 'what should be in this article', I'd think the article's talk page would be the right place for this, to keep things out in the open. --Broadwing 19:16, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
If you examine Sibe's page, you will see it is a veritable police blotter in great detail. If it is justified to have such information and details on he in the interests of warning the furry community about him, it likewise is also justified to warn people about a well-known artist who has been convicted of possession of child pornography. It is as bad a crime as any of Sibe's and indicates that he may well be a danger to children. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.164.155.151 (talk • contribs)
- In the case of Sibe, he has made friends with people and later stolen money and property from them, and has been banned from conventions on multiple occasions. These are acts which would be good for anyone dealing with him to know about. It's quite possible that some of the actions listed in the article could be left out as irrelevant to his involvement in furry fandom, but clearly many of them are relevant.
- If Frank Gembeck were a producer of child pornography then it might be more justified, but it's not apparent that simply possessing it makes him a danger to others in the fandom or to their children. To my knowledge (and I'm certainly no expert on the subject), laws against possession of child porn are primarily based on demand-drives-supply, and it's the supply side and the exploitation of children that goes with it that the laws are intended to address.
- But I'm just one admin here. Other admins here may have differing viewpoints, so I'll see if I can get some second opinions. --mwalimu 17:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
A further thought which occurred to me is that, Frank Gembeck, received a 6 year conviction for his possession of sado-masochistic child pornography. So he will be gone for a long time and may be banned from the internet, on the sex offenders register etc. If someone wants to know what happened to him, where he vanished, they can see in this article why and where he went & Furry fandom/sub-culture contains many young people in, many underage ones, conventions may be attended by under-age people. It is useful for people to be forewarned or be able to be forewarned about him (via a link to the article for example), should he pop up again in future.
If you look here NSFW: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1867285 You can see in the image description:
"(Anyone know if Frank Gembeck is still on FA?)"
And comments:
"He is one of me favorite artist for male characters, and I was pawing off to his work when I was just starting to discover my furryness :P" http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1867285#cid:13438008
This shows that Gembeck is a well known artist and people have wondered where he has gone. Therefore to include this here is of use to people who want to know where he has gone.
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